April 9, 2025

Life Happens on the Other Side of Hard Things: Zoe Smith part 2

Life Happens on the Other Side of Hard Things: Zoe Smith part 2

Zoe Smith shares her transformative journey from a high-powered career to becoming a holistic healing practitioner, offering powerful insights on overcoming fear to reach our goals and healing the whole self.

• Everything we want exists on the other side of fear, but we must focus on our goals rather than obstacles
• The breath directly connects to our parasympathetic nervous system, making breathwork a powerful tool for reducing stress hormones
• QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) helps resolve past trauma and provides healing through accessing the subconscious
• Reiki channels universal life force energy to balance the body's energy systems and remove blockages
• Despite increased technological connectivity, people report feeling more disconnected and lonely than ever before
• Healing is an ongoing journey of peeling away layers, not a one-time event
• Simple daily practices like breathwork, gratitude exercises, and using the five senses can bring us back to center

Connect with Zoe at yourvitalitycoaching.com or find her on Facebook and Instagram to learn more about her services, which are available worldwide through Zoom.


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Chapters

00:08 - Welcome Back to Zoe Smith

01:07 - Everything is on the Other Side of Fear

04:41 - Transformation from Past to Present

08:20 - Exploring Healing Modalities

14:55 - The Mind-Body Connection

31:28 - The Power of Breath and Daily Rituals

44:08 - Modern Disconnection in Connected Times

52:36 - Closing Thoughts and Contact Information

Transcript
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Welcome back to part two of our conversation with the incredible Zoe Smith, with your Vitality Coaching.

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If you caught the first episode, you already know her story is one of radical transformation, stepping away from a high-powered career to fully embracing a path of healing and wholeness.

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We're going to dig into some pretty big questions.

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How do we move through fear to reach success?

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What does it truly mean to heal the whole self, and how can small rituals create massive shifts in our emotional and physical well-being?

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Zoe's also going to open up about who she is today, after pressing pause in her life, what surprised her most about that journey and how she now helps others reconnect with themselves through powerful healing modalities like QHHT, reiki, sound therapy, yoga, body combat and actually being a life coach.

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The conversation is honest, uplifting and filled with practical wisdom, so let's jump in.

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I've reinvented myself many, many times and I really believe in constantly evolving.

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You are the poster person for reinventing yourself, I think, and I think we have to give ourselves permission many times in order to do that.

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What have you learned about transformation and what gives you the courage to keep evolving into new, into new versions of yourself?

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yeah, I asked.

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Yeah, I haven't.

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I have, um, transformed many times, not intentionally, but I think it's part of life's journey, and I think my current boss has a saying, and I think he got it from George Adair.

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George Adair's famous quote is everything that you want is on the other side of fear, and my boss translated that to and he uses it in his fitness classes sometimes to motivate people, and he'll say um, the magic happens on the other side of the stuff that you don't want to do.

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Well, actually, both of both of those are absolutely spot on, because the stuff that we find difficult, the stuff we're scared of, the stuff that we don't want to do, we have to overcome that in order to move in order to transform and develop.

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And when I think back, like moving from England to China, I remember I packed my house up, I gave most of my belongings away or I sold them, and I headed off to China with two suitcases and no real plan.

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I knew that I wanted to live there, I knew I wanted to work and I knew I wanted to travel.

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That was my plan.

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I had no idea how long I was going for, um, if I would have known that covid was going to break out, I think I'd have gone five years sooner, but anyway, um.

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So yeah, was that scary?

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Yes, but I didn't focus on the fear.

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I focused on what I really wanted to achieve.

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And if I would have been frozen in the fear, I would have never done it.

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Fear out of the way, accept it, acknowledge it.

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But we still have to to keep going, don't we?

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Otherwise we remain stuck and that is a choice.

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That's something else, it is a choice.

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It's a choice.

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None of us are rooted to the spot.

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We've all got choice.

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That choice might not be nice and it might not be a welcome choice.

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It might be hard to make, but it's a choice and yeah, and so evolving and I don't think a lot of us realize or feel, see that choice.

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We don't.

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You know a lot of people really don't see themselves being able to go through the fear, get to the other side, because success or whatever you really want is really on the other side and you, you know fear is a lie, you know most of the things that are standing in between us and whatever we want to achieve isn't really even going to happen.

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And we have to allow ourselves to just forge through, no matter what.

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But I mean, it is really hard because it is a big block and it's being able to push through that mountain or whatever it is that stand in between us and wherever we want to be, and just allow ourselves to succeed.

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Yeah, it's having the courage.

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Isn't it being brave?

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Yeah, it's having the courage.

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Isn't it being brave?

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Yes, taking that leap, yeah, I like those words From that crazy life that you led before a couple of different times.

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It sounds like to who you are today because you are a much more grounded person.

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How different are you today from that person that had to pause for that five months?

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Oh, completely different.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm much calmer, I'm much more laid back, incredibly flexible.

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I'm organized in a flexible kind of a way, so I'm still organized.

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I like that.

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To the outside person looking into my life, it might look a bit chaotic, whereas in the past it would have looked very organized and disciplined.

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I'm still organized and disciplined, but I am a lot more more laid back with it.

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Um, okay, I tend to be late for a lot of things nowadays, to be honest.

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and um, I'm not very late, but maybe five minutes late and okay well, you're busy, just needing that extra five minutes to take care of yourself.

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Yeah, yeah, and I don't mind about that now and I will tell people.

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In fact, we were talking about pronouns the other day and how people are using pronouns and I said mine are almost there.

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I identify as late.

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My pronouns are almost there.

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That's awesome.

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Oh, I love that.

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I think, alongside all that, I've grown in confidence a lot.

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I'm very happy and comfortable in my own skin and with who I am, Whereas in the past that wasn't always the case and I think it really made me think.

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A few weeks ago I covered an aqua class and so I was there on the side of the pool doing my thing and motivating everyone and shouting and getting up, and in the class there was a lady who had come to say hi at the beginning and I haven't seen her for years and she's my friend, who I went to school with.

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It's her mom, and I haven't seen my friend for years and I haven't seen her mom for years.

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So we were reminiscing a little bit.

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And then she got in the pool and I started the class and partway through the class I'm like come on everybody, how are we feeling?

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And she said Zoe, you used to be so quiet and shy and a nice person and now you're just bullying me.

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Oh, my goodness.

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And it really made me laugh because I thought, yeah, I am completely different now to how I would have been when she knew me back at school.

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Well, a beautiful transformation.

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Anything surprise you about your journey learning about yourself, Everything.

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Yeah, I love seeing how things unfold.

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I love seeing the magic of the universe.

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I love seeing the miracles and the synchronicities and things that life throws at us.

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That there's no.

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I believe there's no such thing as a coincidence.

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I believe that everybody, and everything that happens is for a reason, and that reason might be a lesson where we learn something, or it could be a blessing, where you're feeling desperate about something and then suddenly something happens and it changes it all.

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And I am always surprised by life and I embrace those surprises.

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I look forward to see, like, where things go and I'm a really big believer in trying things and seeing what happens.

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I love that.

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Yeah, I believe in exposure for my kids.

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I mean it's just being exposed to everything and being open.

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I mean that's really important.

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Now talk about being open about different things.

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You now offer a powerful range of modalities.

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You have so much experience.

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You offer the QHHT, which you talked about, the quantum healing, hypnosis technique, which we will talk about.

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These things Reiki, yoga, sound therapy, coaching, even body combat, which I found really interesting.

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How do you determine what someone needs and how do you help people recognize where they're out of balance, either mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually?

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yeah, that's an interesting question, um, because I learned a long time ago, um, that you can't force your help on other people.

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So some so you can easily look at someone else's life and say, oh, you should be doing this, you should try that.

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But we all know that when people do that for us, we often don't listen.

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We have to figure that out for ourselves.

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So really early on in my coaching I realized even though I thought I knew what people needed then that wasn't the approach that I should be taking.

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So I focus a lot on asking questions.

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I am nosy and I ask lots of questions, and I really love getting to know my clients, whether that's in the gym doing exercise, rehab, or whether it's someone who comes for Reiki, and then we get chatting and look at other things that will help in their life.

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So I ask a lot of um, and it does depend a lot on the scenario.

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I recently had um a chap come to me who'd lost mobility due to a spinal injury, so so I was sort of trying to understand what it was that he was wanting to achieve, and I'm making suggestions to him about what we could do and everything that I suggested.

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He came up with a negative.

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Oh well, no, that won't work because.

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Oh well, I tried that and that didn't work.

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And oh no, I'm not so sure about that.

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So this had gone on for about five or 10 minutes and in the end I put my clipboard down and sat back in my chair and I just went.

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So what is it you do want?

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Why are you here?

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And I can come across as blunt and direct I can be blunt and direct sometimes so he sort of he looked at me and sort of stopped and he thought for a minute and then he answered and then we carried on from there.

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So he'd been coming to the gym for a number of weeks and he'd made some really good progress.

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And I commented on his progress one day and I said wow, look how far you've come.

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Well done with this.

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And he said well, it's all you.

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And I said it's not all me.

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I said it's all down to you.

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You're the one who's put the work in.

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He went no, no, it's all you, zoe.

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And I said how is it me?

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And he said well, you asked me that question when we first met and I'd forgotten about this.

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And I said which question was that?

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And he said well, he said you just stopped and looked at me and went well, what is it you do want?

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And he said I hadn't actually thought about that.

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And he said I realized what you meant and it made me think.

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And he said I went home after that and I was thinking what do I actually want, want?

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And so sometimes it's about asking the right question, which sometimes I get right and sometimes I don't, but then from there working with that person to put things in place.

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So that chap as well was very closed to alternative therapies when I first met him.

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I asked him in that first meeting are you open to alternative therapies?

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Because that's what I will usually say to people, to quickly determine whether or not it's something they would be willing to consider.

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And he, his response was pretty much no, um, and so I moved on to my next question and just dismissed that.

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And then he mentioned to me about somebody that he knew who was a Reiki master, and he was sort of laughing about it and and saying you know, I don't think that.

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What a load of rubbish.

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And I said, oh, a reiki master.

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Yes, I'm a reiki master.

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And he went oh, oh and uh and I said but don't worry, I said I won't, I won't mention it with you because I can see that it's not for you.

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And then, because he got to know me a little bit by that point, then he was intrigued because he his sort of perception of me and how we'd work together.

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But then he then he's realizing that I'm doing other things as well and he's suddenly intrigued and uh, and now he's having Reiki and it's making a really big difference to his life.

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So it can be a journey working with other people, and I've really realized it has to be very step-by-step and it has to be led by them and I'm just there to make suggestions, ask questions, get them thinking.

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Sure, because it really is about them getting to know themselves.

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It is yeah, and they've got to want to.

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Yeah, helping them help it is yeah, and they've got to want to.

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Yeah, helping them help themselves Exactly yeah.

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But I have a few questions about what exactly some of these things are, because I have no idea what QHHT is and how it supports deep healing.

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So if you could talk a little bit about that, Because it vast.

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So I'll just I'll give us okay.

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In a nutshell, for the lay person who has no clue what it is.

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So.

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It was developed by the late um dolores cannon, um, who was an american lady, and she worked on on the technique over a 40-year career and sort of found it by accident working with hypnotherapy, and then eventually it evolved into what we now know and love as QHHT of hypnotherapy, where you take the person back in time, regress them back to wherever their higher self or subconscious takes them.

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Now that might be a past life or it might be earlier in their current life.

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It'll be somewhere in time that they that will be directly relevant to whatever issues going on in their life now.

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So it's it's a complex, yet simple at the same time process.

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Um, so I've had it done on me, because when I was training to become a practitioner, um, a requirement is that you have it done on you so that because if you've not had that experience, you can't understand it and how it might play out for other people.

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So in my session I was taken back to a past life and in that past life I was able to describe what was going on and why and how I was feeling, and we went right through that past life up to the point of death and then moved into what happens after death.

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So even if somebody's experienced something truly horrific, say like being burnt at the stake or if they drowned or something horrific, they don't feel that.

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So you can take them through the experience without them feeling any of that.

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So it's all safe.

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But it can help resolve any historical unresolved trauma.

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It can help you understand any emotional pain that you're dealing with or physical pain Sometimes, when we've got physical health conditions in this life.

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Sometimes that can be linked with a past life.

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Sometimes it can be something that our higher self or our soul has chosen for us to experience in this life and we just have to go through that because it's one of our lessons.

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So then, once you've gone through your past life safely, we will then meet with the subconscious and we will.

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At that point you can ask the subconscious any questions you want the answers to.

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So I sat down before my session and I think I had two a4 sides of questions.

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You can ask about anything.

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You can ask about anything that's happened in your life.

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You can ask tough questions.

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You're going through at the time all sorts about your life and you get the answers and during that same segment of of the healing, if you have any physical ailments that you would like to understand why you've got them or how you can work through them, you can also ask for healing and if it's appropriate for that condition to be healed, then the subconscious will step in and heal the body.

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So as a practitioner, I have done a number of sessions where people have had healing, but there's always one that sticks in my mind and it was for a gentleman who had had a spinal injury.

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He'd had several spinal operations and he had QHHT with me and during the healing part we asked for healing for his spine and I could see his body moving independently.

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I wasn't touching him I don't need to touch during qhht, um, and his body was just moving independently, twitching and moving, and his spine was realigning and healing.

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And at the end of that session over the next couple of weeks, the more you you get a recording of your session and the more you listen to it before you fall asleep, the more healing comes through, because you're in that deeply relaxed state and whilst you're having the hypnotherapy you're in a deeply relaxed state.

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So when you're in that deep state of relaxation, that is when the body can heal itself and he was able to go back to playing football with his son, which he'd never done for years, and he had been a semi-professional boxer before he'd had his injury.

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He went back and had another semi-professional fight after that and he'd been in agony for years and yet he was able to get healing.

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And I know when I, when I had mine, I'd asked for healing on my spine because I'd been having low back problems and I and I had a similar experience where my body just I could feel it.

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I could feel my body moving as I was lying there, because you're in a deeply relaxed state but you're still aware of what's going on around you.

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It's, um, it's a an amazing experience.

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Incredible.

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Yeah, yeah, it doesn't heal everything.

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So, for example, I my eyesight is terrible I've got really long eyesight and I'd asked for healing on my eyes as well that that didn't come through, which means for me that's obviously before I came into this life, that's something that my soul had chosen for me, so I'm not meant to have good eyesight in this life, but yet my spine problems were resolved.

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So, yeah, it is amazing.

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Wow, could you talk a little bit about Reiki, because I personally I know a little bit about it, but for our listeners just explain it a little bit please so Reiki is a Japanese form of healing and well, comes from Japan and it's working with the universal life force, energy, which is the energy that we've all got inside us and that we all share, and it's what links us all with the universe.

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That energy has no beginning and no end.

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It changes form and changes shape, um, and so with reiki I work as a channel.

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I I work between your energy and the energy from the universe and I am just a channel to channel healing energy to, to your body.

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So I work over the body in the energy field.

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I don't all.

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I occasionally I'll put my hands on the body, but not very often.

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I usually work above the energy field or on the aura and I am just channeling energy to the body.

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Now I can sense through my hands, as I'm doing that, where healing is needed, um, and I can sense where there's blockages in people's energy and Reiki just works to.

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It puts you into that deeply relaxed state where your body can heal itself, and then it's just working with that energy to realign it, to remove any blocks, to balance your energy.

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I work over the chakras.

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We've got seven main chakra points down our body, from the crown of our head to the tip of our tailbone.

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I'll work over those points.

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But I'll also work on other areas of the body as well, and I've had some amazing experiences.

00:21:14.787 --> 00:21:24.009
Reiki works on a body, mind and soul level, so the healing goes wherever your higher self determines you need it.

00:21:24.009 --> 00:21:39.801
So somebody might come to me with really bad pain in their knee, but they've also been going through a heavily emotional time, and so the healing will go purely to their emotions, which can be very subtle, and not the knee, and then they'll say to me oh, it didn't work.

00:21:39.801 --> 00:21:45.066
And then I have to then coax out of them like what else is going on?

00:21:45.066 --> 00:21:46.296
Where else might it have gone?

00:21:46.296 --> 00:21:48.361
Have you been feeling any differently in yourself?

00:21:48.361 --> 00:21:51.877
And then they'll say oh well, I've been feeling a bit calmer.

00:21:51.877 --> 00:21:53.221
Oh well, there we go.

00:21:53.221 --> 00:21:53.981
Um.

00:21:53.981 --> 00:21:58.519
So sometimes it can be very subtle and you have to take a step back, go, hang on a minute.

00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:01.546
The healing's gone somewhere, because it always does.

00:22:01.546 --> 00:22:02.548
So where has it gone?

00:22:02.548 --> 00:22:03.935
And then once.

00:22:04.497 --> 00:22:17.469
So if somebody is going through an emotional or stressful time and they get that healing there, then if they come back for more Reiki, then it may well then go to the painful knee or wherever else it's needed.

00:22:17.469 --> 00:22:24.445
So it's body, mind and soul and you don't get to choose, and I don't get to choose where that goes, but your higher self does.

00:22:24.445 --> 00:22:38.500
But then, on the other hand, I've had clients who have come to me and can't walk without a stick and after a few sessions of Reiki they're walking without a stick and thinking of going back to ballroom dancing, and it's amazing.

00:22:38.500 --> 00:22:40.561
It's absolutely amazing.

00:22:40.561 --> 00:22:43.284
It's like magic to me and I never get sick of it.

00:22:43.284 --> 00:22:46.042
I just love to see how it works.

00:22:46.344 --> 00:22:46.965
Oh my gosh.

00:22:46.965 --> 00:22:58.183
So in a way, I mean, even though your healthcare system has turned into what it is and people are going to alternative ways of healing, it seems like you know that's a good thing.

00:22:59.356 --> 00:23:00.103
I think so.

00:23:00.103 --> 00:23:05.022
I think we've all got the power within us to heal and to heal each other.

00:23:05.022 --> 00:23:07.007
This isn't a special skill.

00:23:07.007 --> 00:23:08.458
I've got that no one else has got.

00:23:08.458 --> 00:23:15.679
I've just tapped into understanding, energy healing and now I'm doing it and we've all got that ability.

00:23:15.679 --> 00:23:25.805
We've been born with, with that ability, but we're not told about it and we're not taught how to use it and we've all forgotten about it as a as a race.

00:23:25.805 --> 00:23:36.278
We've forgotten about it and I think if we could all just remember that and tap into it and if we were all doing it, how amazing would life be.

00:23:36.278 --> 00:23:40.403
We wouldn't need it, would be some of the pharmaceuticals and things like that.

00:23:41.204 --> 00:23:45.557
Yeah, it would definitely be different, and I think that those things are well.

00:23:45.557 --> 00:23:53.077
Yeah, I think that a lot of those medicines are killing us, so so do I, so do I yeah, they're not designed.

00:23:53.479 --> 00:24:05.058
I did read something the other day about one of the large pharmaceutical companies and how they'd been around for a certain amount of time and in that time they've hardly healed anyone, and I thought, yeah, they're not designed to heal.

00:24:05.058 --> 00:24:17.556
They've put all that investment into research and the latest technology and yet actually people are still sick oh yeah yeah, I think the ancient civilizations understood all this.

00:24:17.696 --> 00:24:24.538
they used to use it egypt, the Mayans, so many of them and it's got lost in time.

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But it's got lost for a reason.

00:24:26.305 --> 00:24:37.365
It's been hidden from us for a reason so that we're more easily controlled, because we've got all this ability and it's important we get it back.

00:24:39.457 --> 00:24:41.525
I really want to know this what is body combat?

00:24:43.875 --> 00:24:45.603
It's an exercise class.

00:24:45.603 --> 00:24:48.884
It's part of the Les Mills classes.

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It's one of their programs.

00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:51.663
It's been really popular.

00:24:51.663 --> 00:24:58.487
It's been around for a long time and I've been instructing body combat classes for a few years now.

00:24:58.487 --> 00:25:02.425
So it's all set to music and it's using different combat moves.

00:25:02.425 --> 00:25:17.721
So you might be punching or all different types of punches and then kicks, and it's all threaded together through choreography and there's usually about 10 tracks in an hour's class and you'll cover all the different types of martial art within a class and it's intense.

00:25:17.721 --> 00:25:26.642
You can take it down to your level, um, but no matter what your level is, if you're working hard in class you are sweating.

00:25:26.642 --> 00:25:33.880
Is it like zumba kind of, in that it's a cardio class and you'll work hard and sweat.

00:25:34.040 --> 00:25:37.806
Yeah well, I used to work out all the time.

00:25:37.806 --> 00:25:39.950
I do treadmill and things like that.

00:25:39.950 --> 00:25:43.061
I'm I am constantly moving, uh.

00:25:43.061 --> 00:25:53.484
But that is something that I'm really interested in doing is high intensive, either dance or some kind of an exercise like that.

00:25:53.484 --> 00:25:55.169
So I really believe in that.

00:25:55.169 --> 00:25:58.201
That's because I mean you have to keep moving.

00:25:58.961 --> 00:26:01.106
You have to Absolutely Use it or lose it.

00:26:01.106 --> 00:26:07.866
Yeah, oh, 100%.

00:26:07.866 --> 00:26:09.152
What do you do as a life coach?

00:26:09.152 --> 00:26:14.602
As a life coach, my life coaching kind of threads together all of the above in a way.

00:26:14.602 --> 00:26:25.522
So it may be that somebody wants to set some goals and make a plan for the future, but they're not really sure how to set the goals, or they're not sure how to work towards them, or they need someone to keep them accountable.

00:26:25.522 --> 00:26:28.084
So it might be that that's my role there.

00:26:28.084 --> 00:26:38.365
Or it might be that to improve their lifestyle and put some measures in place to improve their health or fitness, and we'll work through techniques around that.

00:26:38.365 --> 00:26:49.327
Or it could be relationship issues or um, career issues or or anything really that's part of life.

00:26:49.409 --> 00:27:11.448
So it's vast um, and it's giving different strategies, techniques, um, and helping them unpick any blockages they may have and helping them think through the consequences of not doing something and realizing they've got a choice and whether they choose to make that change and how.

00:27:11.448 --> 00:27:14.281
So it can be quite powerful.

00:27:14.281 --> 00:27:21.035
It's an opportunity for someone to take a step back, gain that perspective in order to then step forward.

00:27:21.035 --> 00:27:24.702
It can be um really interesting.

00:27:24.702 --> 00:27:27.429
I've and I'm starting to work with more young people.

00:27:27.429 --> 00:27:30.761
I think covid's got had an impact on our young people.

00:27:30.761 --> 00:28:04.584
They they were going through covid in their formative years, whereas it was hard enough for us as adults to go through those changes but, yeah, for children to go through them, that's had lasting effects on a lot of our our young people, and so I've been working with some young people looking at coping strategies, um breathing techniques, helping them realize they have choices and what those choices look like, and that's been quite interesting as well.

00:28:06.248 --> 00:28:19.911
Do you think that we underestimate how connected our emotional health is to our physical well-being, and how do you guide clients through that connection in your practice?

00:28:20.615 --> 00:28:27.848
I think we do underestimate that massively because the breath is one of our biggest links in our body.

00:28:27.848 --> 00:28:39.875
Our breath links us directly with our parasympathetic nervous system, which is the system in our body that calms us us.

00:28:39.875 --> 00:28:42.483
So when we're at stress or we're feeling there's an emergency or something like that, we're in our fight or flight.

00:28:42.483 --> 00:28:53.855
Uh okay, pathetic nervous system, cortisol levels are high, we're ready to go, but we're only designed to be in that space for very short periods to deal with those emergencies.

00:28:53.855 --> 00:29:04.151
However, the pace of modern life means that more and more people are in that heightened zone with raised cortisol levels for long periods of time.

00:29:04.151 --> 00:29:15.671
And unless you're aware and unless you're thinking about how to lower those cortisol levels again, then it can actually have lasting effects.

00:29:15.671 --> 00:29:48.577
It can be responsible for heart conditions, diabetes, all sorts of different physical conditions, and it's really simple to employ some very simple breathing techniques and the breath connects us straight away with that parasympathetic nervous system, which reduces those cortisol levels back down, make us feel calm, makes us feel peaceful, gives us our clarity and our focus and our vision back, which we lose when we're up here all the time because we're feeling overwhelmed, we're on edge and we can't select.

00:29:48.577 --> 00:29:53.046
So we massively underestimate that as a nation, as as a world.

00:29:53.807 --> 00:29:56.436
Um, in modern life, technology is great.

00:29:56.436 --> 00:29:57.839
Technology is amazing.

00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:17.897
It's made all sorts of changes to our lives for the better, but it's also made a lot of changes to our lives that have not been for the best, and I think we have to learn how to use technology better, how to regain a balance and a pace of life.

00:30:17.897 --> 00:30:37.907
And so, yeah, breathwork techniques are something I use with a lot of my clients, whether that's through yoga I've introduced it into some of my exercise classes in the cool-down section I try and educate my clients using breathwork in the gym.

00:30:37.907 --> 00:30:47.868
Again, I've had real success working with some of my younger clients, um, introducing breath work techniques to them, um, and explaining why.

00:30:47.868 --> 00:30:51.968
Because if you just say to to people, it'll calm you down.

00:30:51.968 --> 00:30:55.657
Sometimes they're like no, yeah, I don't see how that's going to help.

00:30:55.657 --> 00:31:03.401
But when you explain the science behind it from to do it with you, they're like oh, yeah, actually I do feel calm now.

00:31:03.461 --> 00:31:10.618
Um, it's so powerful, and so these things can actually lower cortisol.

00:31:10.618 --> 00:31:19.299
Yeah, without having to take some of these prescribed medications to lower cortisol yeah, you're doing breath work.

00:31:19.701 --> 00:31:27.505
You know in the moment when you're feeling anxious, or at night, if you can't settle and if you just follow a few simple breath work techniques.

00:31:27.505 --> 00:31:34.800
One of my favorite is I just shut my eyes and I'll breathe in to the count of three, out to the count of three.

00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:39.207
Now, that means that I'm having to focus on my breath and I'm counting.

00:31:39.207 --> 00:31:44.323
So whilst I'm focusing on my breath and I'm counting, I'm not able to do anything else.

00:31:44.323 --> 00:31:50.845
I'm not able to think about what it was that was stressing me out the second before or any of those things.

00:31:50.904 --> 00:31:57.968
So breathe in for three, out for three, do that for three or four rounds, and then I'll breathe in for three, out for four.

00:31:57.968 --> 00:32:05.787
So I'm slowly lengthening that exhale and I'll do that for three or four rounds and then I breathe in for three, out for five.

00:32:05.787 --> 00:32:32.298
Now I've really lengthened that exhale and I'll sit with that until I start to feel peaceful and I just sit and count, and then I'll bring it back down three and four, and then I bring it back down three and three and by the time I've done that and it might only take and four, and then I bring it back down three and three, and by the time I've done that and it might only take two minutes, by the time I've done that, whatever it was that was stressing me out a minute before I've forgotten, I'm feeling calm and I'm ready to go again.

00:32:32.358 --> 00:32:34.924
That's powerful Massively.

00:32:34.924 --> 00:32:48.409
I've got two kids who went through a lot of trauma before I adopted them and their cortisol levels are high, so that's really interesting.

00:32:48.409 --> 00:32:52.710
I am definitely going to look into that with them.

00:32:52.910 --> 00:33:07.394
Do that with them, and there's loads of different exercises, um, and some will appeal to people, to individuals, more than others, and so it's worth trying different ones until you find one that works for them.

00:33:07.394 --> 00:33:19.887
But I think the practice of doing it, the calmness that they will feel as they do it and after it, just really opens your eyes to a simple technique that can really help.

00:33:20.914 --> 00:33:27.308
Well, that's one thing, possibly for someone who's brand new to things like energy healing and yoga.

00:33:27.308 --> 00:33:29.303
Where do you suggest they start?

00:33:29.303 --> 00:33:32.364
I mean the breath work or anywhere else?

00:33:33.115 --> 00:33:35.483
Breath work's a really good place to start.

00:33:35.483 --> 00:33:52.499
People struggle with meditation at first, um, because usually the usually when we need meditation in the moment, it's when our head is so busy and full of chatter, and, and that can be when it's hard to meditate.

00:33:52.499 --> 00:34:11.563
And I find that breath work is really good because if you're counting in the way that I was just talking about, for example, then you can only focus on counting and breath, so you've got one single point of focus, which is what helps with calming the mind.

00:34:11.563 --> 00:34:16.057
So breath work's a really good way to start.

00:34:16.057 --> 00:34:26.628
Sometimes, when you've practiced breath work a little bit, you can then move into meditation, and breath work is a good way into meditation because you've calmed yourself.

00:34:26.628 --> 00:34:27.916
Then you can meditate.

00:34:28.838 --> 00:34:39.023
Um, yoga can help some people if they um, some of us have got a lot of energy and can't sit still and just sitting down to do breath work is hard in itself.

00:34:39.023 --> 00:34:56.380
So yoga does the same thing, but you're moving, so you're moving into a pose and you might inhale one way, exhale down, whatever that pose is, but again you're focusing on the movement, the body and the breath, and so it's a single point of focus again.

00:34:56.380 --> 00:35:03.059
And then another one that I like is the sound therapy a single point of focus again, and then another one that I like is the sound therapy.

00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.588
So for sound healing, I'll get people to lay on the floor in a really comfy position for them.

00:35:05.588 --> 00:35:14.717
They might have blankets and sleeping bag, whatever to make them feel really comfy, and then they just lay there and listen to the sound.

00:35:14.717 --> 00:35:29.065
So again, listening to the sounds, and there'll be different sounds at different frequencies, and that helps put you into that relaxed state once again, and then that's when you can really calm the mind and the body starts to heal itself.

00:35:29.706 --> 00:35:34.820
So I think those are three of my favorites because they're accessible for most people.

00:35:34.820 --> 00:35:51.760
One of them will appeal more to each individual than another, but they're a way into relaxation, um, where people can just relax, and often people will say to me oh, I can't do yoga, because when I was doing this, all I was thinking about was that.

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:58.242
And I said to them right, okay, so instead of letting your mind wander, bring it back.

00:35:58.242 --> 00:36:00.807
What are you doing with your body at that time?

00:36:00.807 --> 00:36:02.541
How is your body aligned?

00:36:02.541 --> 00:36:04.240
How are you breathing?

00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:06.443
Are you aligning your breath with your movement?

00:36:06.443 --> 00:36:12.148
And there's no where for the mind to go when you're fully in the moment.

00:36:12.148 --> 00:36:16.385
But being fully in the moment is hard sometimes in modern life.

00:36:17.856 --> 00:36:23.469
It sounds like the mind might be one of our biggest barriers.

00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:26.199
I would think so.

00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.706
I mean, are there any really big barriers that you see with?

00:36:29.706 --> 00:36:35.619
Because you've seen people stuck, lost, disconnected, and what would you say?

00:36:35.619 --> 00:36:39.123
Some of the biggest barriers are that hold people back.

00:36:40.166 --> 00:36:44.690
The mind is one of our most powerful tools.

00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:55.304
Yeah, the power of the mind is phenomenal, but, yeah, it can, equally as much as it can be one of our most powerful tools for taking us forward, it can also be a powerful tool in holding us back.

00:36:55.304 --> 00:37:07.768
And that couples up with some of the expectations that we place on ourselves that are unreasonable, the expectations that society places on us or that we feel society might be placing on us.

00:37:07.768 --> 00:37:13.440
Some of the traditions what will your family think, what's your family expect from you?

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.704
All of those things, extra pressures that we put on ourselves.

00:37:17.704 --> 00:37:34.503
Keeping up with material wants people place um success on what they own sometimes, and then being able to achieve having that house, that car, that holiday, whatever it, oh, whatever it is.

00:37:34.583 --> 00:37:36.550
For you people, that can be a barrier.

00:37:36.550 --> 00:37:41.085
Yeah, feeling trapped and trying to live someone else's dreams for your life.

00:37:41.085 --> 00:37:54.661
Sometimes people are so focused on living other people's dreams they don't even realize they're doing it, and then they don't know what their dreams actually are, and it isn't until years down the line.

00:37:54.661 --> 00:38:22.978
Sometimes people say I've been living his life, or I've been living her life, I've been doing what my mum wanted and, and now she's gone and I don't know what I want, and that's really sad, because we've all got the choice and stepping outside of those expectations that we put on ourselves or that we feel are put on us, um, is it's important, it's really important, to be able to do that.

00:38:22.978 --> 00:38:37.702
So I think one of the biggest things is is being able to identify what brings you joy um, some people don't know what brings them joy and to be, able to, to know what it is that brings you joy and then to make time for it.

00:38:38.983 --> 00:38:47.952
Um, and when we feel that joy, it brings us back to a state of peace in itself, um, we're feeling happy doing whatever it is that brings us joy.

00:38:47.952 --> 00:38:54.188
We're joyful while we're doing it and that helps us to think clearly and it gives us the time to do it.

00:38:54.188 --> 00:39:00.385
So we've set aside some time to do something we love and it can be so therapeutic.

00:39:00.385 --> 00:39:04.858
But making time can be the hard thing, can't it?

00:39:04.858 --> 00:39:11.695
Um, stepping back and and really reflecting on on on things it can.

00:39:11.695 --> 00:39:12.775
That can be the hardest thing.

00:39:12.835 --> 00:39:22.722
Prioritizing ourselves oh, that is so important and I hear you say often is that it's just finding something that brings you back to center.

00:39:22.722 --> 00:39:28.304
And you know it's sometimes because my life is really crazy.

00:39:28.304 --> 00:39:40.893
It's sitting down and putting a puzzle together or painting or drawing, because I love doing those kinds of things, or getting out in nature and doing my photography that I love.

00:39:40.893 --> 00:39:47.909
You know it's really important that we have to do those things in the crazy.

00:39:47.909 --> 00:39:59.538
Now, in your view, what does it really mean to heal the whole self, and do you think that we ever can really reach that?

00:40:02.181 --> 00:40:04.025
I think it's an ongoing process.

00:40:04.525 --> 00:40:14.327
I think we can heal the whole self, but it's not a do it once, done forever, and I think the whole healing process happens.

00:40:16.371 --> 00:40:41.806
I often describe it as like peeling an onion so you peel away a layer of healing and you deal with it and you feel good, and then life carries on and then something else happens and it triggers the memory or an emotion, or there's a situation that's got out of hand, or, and then you peel away that layer and you heal it and you throw it away and life moves on and it's a constant journey.

00:40:41.806 --> 00:41:03.143
But as we go through that journey, if we are taking the time to understand ourselves, to learn about ourselves, to figure out what brings us back to our center, to understand what brings us joy, to learn from our mistakes, then as we go through life, peeling those layers and dealing with them gets easier.

00:41:03.143 --> 00:41:08.634
Each time, or sometimes there'll be big challenges that crop up that we haven't seen coming.

00:41:08.634 --> 00:41:12.911
But life it is a journey and that healing is constant.

00:41:12.911 --> 00:41:20.251
But we can only learn from each experience and hopefully, as we get older, it gets easier.

00:41:20.251 --> 00:41:22.567
That's what I hope anyway.

00:41:23.619 --> 00:41:24.585
Yeah, I don't know.

00:41:24.585 --> 00:41:26.748
I think it is a daily thing.

00:41:26.748 --> 00:41:33.193
Are there daily rituals that you do every single day or that people can just do sitting at their desk?

00:41:33.193 --> 00:41:43.594
Now I'm thinking probably breath work, but that are people just like, wait a second, I really need to do this right now.

00:41:43.594 --> 00:41:48.380
And what could they do in order to stay grounded and connected?

00:41:49.422 --> 00:41:51.927
so breath work is one gratitude.

00:41:51.927 --> 00:42:03.804
Three things I'm grateful for this minute ago, um, and another one that I don't use this, but it has been recommended to me in the past and I know for some of my clients this works really well.

00:42:03.804 --> 00:42:13.969
So so, in the moment, five things that you can one, see, two, hear, three, touch, four, feel using each of the five senses.

00:42:13.969 --> 00:42:26.150
And that brings you right back to yes, have you done it I have tried it and it didn't in the moment that I tried it.

00:42:26.190 --> 00:42:28.094
The time that I tried it, it didn't work for me.

00:42:28.094 --> 00:42:32.190
For me, it's more the breath work and the gratitude.

00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:40.146
But I have worked with clients for who it really works and they use it all the time, and I think that's the other thing.

00:42:40.146 --> 00:42:43.226
We have to try these different things to figure out what does work.

00:42:43.226 --> 00:42:50.945
And also, sometimes something that works at one time won't work in another situation.

00:42:51.387 --> 00:43:06.949
So I know, like sometimes I love having reflexology done on me, I absolutely love it, um, but other times I want reiki done on me and other times I might use acupuncture, and so I know that they all work.

00:43:06.949 --> 00:43:15.568
But I know that over the years, the more that I use them, I know which scenario they'll work in, and it's only through trial and error that we can do that.

00:43:15.568 --> 00:43:19.199
And the same with some of these techniques as well.

00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:28.206
Like sometimes it might be gratitude and that's that brings you back to the moment and, yeah, things aren't all bad because I'm grateful for this, this and this.

00:43:28.206 --> 00:43:35.929
Other times it might be a few deep breaths and, yeah, having a toolbox that you learn about and develop over time.

00:43:36.570 --> 00:43:43.909
Yeah, I talk about toolboxes all the time, and sometimes it's just having something to help us reset in the moment.

00:43:43.909 --> 00:43:46.172
You know, and that is so important.

00:43:46.172 --> 00:43:49.505
That's so much of what you're talking about here.

00:43:49.505 --> 00:44:07.253
With your experience across government care, education and healing, what have you learned about people in all of these different spaces and what do you believe stays constant in our human need for connection and transformation?

00:44:08.222 --> 00:44:10.079
Ooh, that's a good question.

00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:30.829
I think I've noticed over the years amongst humanity and this is largely down to media and societal expectations I've noticed there's been an increase more and more in the need for instant gratification, like people are looking for in things instantly.

00:44:30.829 --> 00:44:32.795
Now they can't wait for anything.

00:44:32.795 --> 00:44:37.369
Um, and not only do they want instant gratification, they want validation.

00:44:37.369 --> 00:44:40.721
You know social media how many likes did I get?

00:44:40.721 --> 00:44:41.382
How?

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Who's watched it?

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How many followers have I got?

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And material success and followers and those kind of things have become like the markers of doing well, and actually they're not the markers of doing well.

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Who cares how many followers anybody's got, it doesn't mean anything.

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Um, social media and technology have had a massive impact on those changes and as we live more and more in the virtual world, um, social connections have changed loneliness and a lack of community.

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They've got a big effect on our mental health and covid really exemplified that more than anything and that lack of community and an increase in selfishness in some ways can leave a real emptiness in our lives.

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So one of, yeah, working in the gym, we often do like um, we ask some of our clients a set of questions which is designed to establish their mental, an understanding of their mental health in that moment.

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It is very subjective, so it just gives us a snapshot of how they're feeling at that time.

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But one of the questions that we ask is how often have you been feeling close to other people?

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And I can have clients who talk to me fondly about their family all the way through their gym sessions and they'll tell me about their children or their partner or mum, dad, whoever.

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And then I ask that question and they'll say, oh, rarely or never.

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And I would say that more people say to me that they feel close to other people rarely than any other answer, and that really speaks to me, because we are supposed to be more connected than ever before.

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Social media means, like I know, when I lived in China, I could FaceTime my parents back home and keep in touch with them every week, and some of my friends back home.

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So really I was connected, I was still connected, and we are more connected than ever before, but yet we feel more lonely than ever before.

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We're becoming more and more distant from each other.

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So I don't know whether that's a lack of empathy, whether's feeling overwhelmed with our, so overwhelmed with our own issues and our own lives that we can't then step, step outside that and take on board other people's problems, or?

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I don't know what it is, um, but I do know that we have a need to be understood and valued, um.

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And I think all of this is made worse when somebody doesn't understand themselves as an individual and they don't realize that they don't understand themselves.

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So they might have unresolved trauma.

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They might be living somebody else's expectations of them, have that self-understanding and that security in who we are as an individual is so important in then being able to connect with other people and to be there for other people.

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We don't have to solve other people's problems, but just knowing that there's someone to listen can make a massive difference.

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But to do this requires us to step outside of that fear that's holding us back, and I think that's one of the things that I've learned.

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You said so much and it was so beautifully said.

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I really thank you so much for being on.

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What a journey you have had, zoe.

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You have helped us understand a world and right now, with what you just said, you really had such an insight on people and how we operate.

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And I don't know.

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I've often thought about what you said about we're so disconnected but yet we're supposed to be connected and we are allow ourselves to put well, we didn't have phones.

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You know, we're looking at our phones and we're doing something else and we're doing so many things at the same time that we're not ever really where we are.

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Yes, you know, and I think that it's really unfortunate because we can't just hit a button and we're across the world and we're talking to somebody, like we are now.

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No, but in reality, unfortunately, I think that we're not as much with the people that are with us in our own families and in our own circles and our own towns than we used to be and we're just so much more busy and we're seeking for so many different things.

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You know, when I look at what my childhood was versus what my kids' childhood is now, I mean I almost feel really bad for them because it's getting them to put those devices down and be able to look and sit at a dinner table and to feel more connected than we ever.

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That we haven't felt in for, I think, a decade.

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And it's getting worse as the decades go, unfortunately, in the more that AI and the more that the Internet has evolved into our world, I think that we're getting more and more distant from what we used to be and have really personal, heartfelt conversations, and I think what you're doing with all these different modalities is you're bringing people back to becoming more centered, and I think that we're going to need those things more and more, as the more these other things are integrated into our world and we feel more distanced.

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Yeah, I agree Definitely.

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Well, healing the mind, body and soul is a series of brave steps, and you are proof of what you can do and you know.

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So many times those are steps that no one else sees when we're doing them and that can make it harder, because it is a choice that we have to make within ourselves on a regular basis to become our best self, and I know you've personally done a lot of work.

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But you have really taken this to another level, and so I so appreciate our conversation.

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How can people get a hold of you and learn more about how you can help them and what you are doing?

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I've got a website, yourvitalitycoachingcom, and there's loads of information on there.

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There's lots of blogs there, there's information about all of the services I offer and how they might work for different people in different scenarios.

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So there's loads of stuff on there that people can have a look at and, if they fancy getting in touch, I'm on Facebook and Instagram and there's a link to my emails on the website.

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So, yeah, definitely have a look, get in touch and it'd be really good to chat.

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So people aren't in the UK.

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I mean, can they still reach out and ask for help and how can you do?

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that I do a lot of work over Zoom.

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Zoom's been an amazing tool, hasn't it?

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It's definitely made the world smaller over the last 20 years or so.

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So it doesn't matter if they're not in the UK, they can still contact you and ask for help, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's a good thing for you know, for these types of situations.

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And now we can just like I said, we can just click a button and there you are and we can say, zoe, I really need you.

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can you teach some of these, like yoga and reiki and different things, even from across the pond, uh-huh yeah, I'm just in the process of setting up an online platform and because what I'd love to be able to do and it's something that I actually did when I came back to the UK first, after COVID, I used to teach exercise classes online and I used to deliver them through a Facebook group, and I had a group of ladies it was all ladies who used to come to the classes, and it changed our lives as a group.

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I put myself in there as well because, um, we built a community and you know what, over the last couple of months, I've been downloading those videos off off that platform, off Facebook, to put up onto my online platform and to grow from there.

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And looking back at the comments on all of the videos and looking back at the videos, it's really made me realize what a community we built and how supportive everyone was of each other.

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And then, looking at where the ladies went, um, when I, when I, stopped doing those classes, and life changed.

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We all got on with other things and, uh, one of those ladies has recently been to spain to compete in a high rocks competition, and so, you know, they carried on Everybody's carried on their journeys.

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And so, yeah, I'm in the process now of setting up an online platform to take my classes back online and that will be open right around the world.

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The Internet is our worldwide website.

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I'm hoping to build a community online and make it international.

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That would be amazing.

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So yeah, that'll be one way okay, well, for anybody that's listening, I mean, share it, get the word out there and you can go to her website and you can absolutely check her out and contact her.

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That would be amazing.

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Now, as we always say at Real Talk with Tina and Anne, there is purpose in the pain and there is hope in the journey.

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Every step we take is a stepping stone to where we are going.

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you.

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I keep yeah, keep growing, keep pushing pause when you need to, and always remember that you can give yourself permission to pivot and start again.

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You are a soul.

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You have a body, and I've never really thought about that before.

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That really hit me when I read it.

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So that's pretty powerful and it's also the reason why, like Buddha said, to keep the body in good health is a duty, otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear.

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And I want to leave you with this.

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Plato said the part can never be well unless the whole is well.

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So please share this episode with someone.

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Let people know about Zoe Smith and your vitality coaching as usual.

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We will see you next time.